WWW2010 : Chat With Doc Searls

Notes: Doc Searls @dsearls discusses the Future of the Web in an interview session led by Lee Rainie, director of the Pew Internet & American Life Project.

  • Linux Journal background/history
  • “Markets are conversations”
  • Everyone on the front row has an Apple computer – that’s UNIX
  • Buy Stewart Brand – How Buildings Learn – No body owns “frame” construction. It was mocked at first.
  • The ability of human beings to do things cooperatively and make money is pretty much limitless
  • Worry : the net is the 3rd act in a triple play (TV/Phone/Net). DMCA made it illegal to listen to popular music on a podcast.
  • We’ve had a model in public radio that shows that people are willing to pay for quality programming/news. One of the things we’re working on – download public media player for iPhone – no apps are finished – we’ve added something in there called “listen log” (Doc will help you unlock it). You’re logging it for yourself. Give you a way to see what you think of as valuable. Give people a way to see what they value and let them find it again.
  • Emancipay – pay whatever you want whenever you want on your terms not the seller’s terms. We’ve lived inside the
  • Peter Drucker : here are advantages of corporation -> access to capital, international scope, ability to publicize. All of those things are no longer exclusive province of large corporations. An increase in responsibility – consumers and producers. This means individuals have more power. As consumers become producers … we’re going to see new tools emerging. Optimistic about it  being cooperative and not competitive.

Notion of property becomes contested — Benker’s argument that the new environment elevates social interactions, social capital is more valuable. What do we have wrong about propert

  • What we have wrong is suggesting that there is not a difference in physical property  – which you can make scarce – and intellectual property. Jefferson & property — ideas spread like fire. You can’t own fire. It may have more value as an idea that spreads than if were something you held. Quote 1
  • Google gets it. Most of us don’t have that concept down yet. There is a lot in what Google – and Apple – is doing that is gift culture. “If I give this to the world good things will happen out there — I’m looking for the relationship”
  • Morality of exchange
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